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31 jan 2023

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What does this "si" mean? For example: "Matti si è sempre preso cura del fratellino."

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paoloM81

31 jan 2023

Italiano

it's a pronominal particle

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-zaira

31 jan 2023

Italiano

looking at the example, it’s to identify a reflexive verb! they are always preceded by pronominal particles (in this case si) to indicate that the one before the particle is the one acting.
it would sound weird to omit it. you can look up charts online with all the particles for each person

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Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

@-zaira @paoloM81 Grazie can you translate it into English? Which word in English is that "si" ?

Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

Or is it like: "Matti takes care of HIS brother" ?

-zaira

31 jan 2023

Italiano

i don’t think there’s one ://

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-zaira

31 jan 2023

Italiano

“his brother” would be “suo fratello”, but that comes before the noun and acts for it. si is part of the verb, it doesn’t really attach itself to anything else

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paoloM81

31 jan 2023

Italiano

It can't be translate.
In Italian "taking care of" is "prendersi cura di", prendersi= prendere + si, it's a reflexive verb.
Here's the full explanation:

https://www.europassitalian.com/learn/grammar/p...

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Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

Thank you but now I'm even more confused. How this "la" is "you" ? For what I know, it is "her" = La amo = I love her

Or am I totally wrong?

Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

Oh I forgot:

Signora, La chiamo domani. (La=Lei) Madam, I'll call you tomorrow.

paoloM81

31 jan 2023

Italiano

@Vadelmamuffini this is different. We use the third singular person "lei" instead of "tu" when we talk formally (with a person we don't know or in a professional conversation). You have to say "lei" instead of "tu" even if you talk to a man

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Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

Grazie I understand that you are polite and you use Lei, I understand that, however, I'm only wondering that "la" is it because it is "to you" vs you (subject)

For example

You eat = Lei manga
I give this book to you = La daro questo libro

paoloM81

31 jan 2023

Italiano

@Vadelmamuffini
It's: Le darò questo libro
Le= a lei ("to you" if formal, or "to her")

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Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

Grazie but how about that "la" ? When it is used? Could you explain about this sentence: "Signora, La chiamo domani" This says that "la" is Lei and if I understand "(to) you" in Finnish it would be "soitan sinuLLE" I put that (to) because in English you could say the same meaning in two way: I give you this book and I give this book TO you. As you can see, both mean the same but there is (to) and the word order is a little bit different but the meaning is the same (well maybe the pressure is different) but anyway, back to Italian, that was what I was talking about, that this "la" is (to) you, right?

paoloM81

31 jan 2023

Italiano

@Vadelmamuffini In this case "la" it's just "you" (formal). Pronouns change in this case. "Io chiamo lei domani" is correct but not natural, "La chiamo domani " is better

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Vadelmamuffini

31 jan 2023

Finlandês

Okay, grazie

Vadelmamuffini

4 fev 2023

Finlandês

@paoloM81 @-zaira Ciao ragazzi! :) I just came here to say that I undestand now that "si" it is a "refleksive verb" or whatever it is called but most important is that it is already familiar to me because of Swedish language. There is "sig" in Swedish and it behaves the same way your "si". I learned it today. :) So that "preso" needs ALWAYS "si" with it. Now I understand

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What does this "si" mean? For example: "Matti si è sempre preso cura del fratellino." See a translation

it's a pronominal particle

looking at the example, it’s to identify a reflexive verb! they are always preceded by pronominal particles (in this case si) to indicate that the one before the particle is the one acting. it would sound weird to omit it. you can look up charts online with all the particles for each person

i don’t think there’s one ://

“his brother” would be “suo fratello”, but that comes before the noun and acts for it. si is part of the verb, it doesn’t really attach itself to anything else

It can't be translate.In Italian "taking care of" is "prendersi cura di", prendersi= prendere + si, it's a reflexive verb. Here's the full explanation:https://www.europassitalian.com/learn/grammar/p...

@Vadelmamuffini this is different. We use the third singular person "lei" instead of "tu" when we talk formally (with a person we don't know or in a professional conversation). You have to say "lei" instead of "tu" even if you talk to a man

@Vadelmamuffini It's: Le darò questo libroLe= a lei ("to you" if formal, or "to her")

@Vadelmamuffini In this case "la" it's just "you" (formal). Pronouns change in this case. "Io chiamo lei domani" is correct but not natural, "La chiamo domani " is better

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What does this "si" mean? For example: "Matti si è sempre preso cura del fratellino."

looking at the example, it’s to identify a reflexive verb! they are always preceded by pronominal particles (in this case si) to indicate that the one before the particle is the one acting.
it would sound weird to omit it. you can look up charts online with all the particles for each person

It can't be translate.
In Italian "taking care of" is "prendersi cura di", prendersi= prendere + si, it's a reflexive verb.
Here's the full explanation:

https://www.europassitalian.com/learn/grammar/p...

@Vadelmamuffini
It's: Le darò questo libro
Le= a lei ("to you" if formal, or "to her")