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Qual é a diferença entre Loss of vision e Vision loss ?Podes indicar apenas respostas exemplo.
Qual é a diferença entre Loss of vision e Vision loss ?Podes indicar apenas respostas exemplo.
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"Vision loss" is more common, but they have the exact same meaning
She experienced loss of vision = she experienced vision loss
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@PhantomWithin I think I must use : vision loss. Loss of vision is when it happens to somebody, saying : her loss of vision. ???
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"her vision loss" or "her loss of vision" are both correct
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@LTer
In other languages, "Loss of vision" is the required word order. However, in English, we're allowed to get rid of the "of" if we swap the words
Carro de mamá = car of mom = mom's car
It's the same, but "vision's loss" sounds weird, since the vision doesn't have ownership.
So it's just "Vision loss"
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@LTer
You can't do it for every use of "of."
But most of them like this use, yes you can. "Vision loss" can always be used instead of "loss of vision"
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@PhantomWithin then, can I omit "of" in any context? But how can I differentiate "of" or "the" in this contexts:
Love for the children
Love for children
The love for children
Love of children
The love of children
Love for the children
Love for children
The love for children
Love of children
The love of children
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@LTer
We can't swap it with "For," so your first three examples don't work
Love of children -> children's love
The love of children -> the children's love
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@PhantomWithin both can be used to talk in general or explain something, or it is in specific?
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@LTer
"The children's love" means exactly the same as "The love of the children"
You can use either word order in any situation
"el amor a la pareja"
The couple's love
The love of the couple
Both translations mean the same thing
I think a specific example where "of" is better, would be the phrase "For the love of God!"
"For God's love" is grammatically correct, yes, but it sounds unnatural. This is because "For the love of God" is a specific phrase that we say.
"Bill of Rights" should also keep "of" even though "Rights Bill" is grammatically correct, because "Bill of Rights" is the specific name of the document
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@PhantomWithin then, love of children and the love of children can be used in general?
Can I use any writing? The same?
Can I use any writing? The same?
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Yep, those are fine in both conversation and writing
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@PhantomWithin Thank you friend. But could you say, when I can use of or omit in any phrase or text apart from the ones you are explaining in order to translate not to confuse it, please?
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@LTer
You can't do it with set phrases. These are things like "table of contents."
Unfortunately you just have to see a lot of English to know what our set phrases are, as I can't think of all of them
You can't use it when "of" is being used like this:
think of
all of
It's only when it's used like this:
[noun] of [_]
Loss of [_]
There may be a few uses I'm forgetting, too. It's not something I was taught a specific rule for, I only know this because I'm a native speaker
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@PhantomWithin I understand. I sometimes make mistakes with the words as an adjective and using of..
For example : parsley benefits or benefits of parsley?
I confuse writing the phrases in two ways with "of" and omitting. That is what I cannot understand to translate any text.
For example : parsley benefits or benefits of parsley?
I confuse writing the phrases in two ways with "of" and omitting. That is what I cannot understand to translate any text.
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@LTer
Honestly, I think unfortunately you just need to listen to or read a lot of English to get used to understanding the pattern yourself.
"Parsley benefits include..."
"Parsley's benefits include..."
"Benefits of parsley include..."
All of these are acceptable
"The parsley benefits are..."
"The benefits of parsley are..."
The second one is definitely more common, but this is something I only know because I've heard English a lot
"Her vision loss was severe"
"Her loss of vision was severe"
The first one is more common, but both are correct
"Her loss of vision caused her a lot of pain"
"Her vision loss caused her a lot of pain"
Here, both options are equally acceptable
It's impossible for me to give you a rule that works for every situation, you really do just need to read a lot of English or watch a lot of content in English
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@PhantomWithin you mean these phrases are the same?
Parsley benefits include / are.... = The benefits of parsley include /are .....
And the others can be used any ?
Parsley benefits include / are.... = The benefits of parsley include /are .....
And the others can be used any ?
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@PhantomWithin I will try to read more. That is the only part that confuses me and some with "from and of"
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