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11 set 2021

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Qual é a diferença entre hostiles e adversaries ?Podes indicar apenas respostas exemplo.

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JetBlack

11 set 2021

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Hostiles is not a word. Hostile is an adjective. The noun would be hostility or plural, hostilities. This is the act of being hostile. Usually used for war type situations.

Hostilities broke out in 1982 between the UK and Argentina over the Falkland Islands.

Adversaries is the plural of an adversary, meaning an opponent, the opposite side or sides. This could be used in any opposing situation, not just war. An adversary in a chess competition, Liverpool playing Arsenal at football are each other’s adversaries. Every team in the league wants to beat all adversaries.

You can also face personal adversaries like losing a job, losing your home, being divorced, etc. Or minor adversaries like getting a punctured tyre or your shoe breaking. It just means something adverse - going against you.

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JetBlack

11 set 2021

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Hostiles is not a word. Hostile is an adjective. The noun would be hostility or plural, hostilities. This is the act of being hostile. Usually used for war type situations.

Hostilities broke out in 1982 between the UK and Argentina over the Falkland Islands.

Adversaries is the plural of an adversary, meaning an opponent, the opposite side or sides. This could be used in any opposing situation, not just war. An adversary in a chess competition, Liverpool playing Arsenal at football are each other’s adversaries. Every team in the league wants to beat all adversaries.

You can also face personal adversaries like losing a job, losing your home, being divorced, etc. Or minor adversaries like getting a punctured tyre or your shoe breaking. It just means something adverse - going against you.

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Bearsca

11 set 2021

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Hostiles are ostensibly hostile in general (to everyone or a broader segment of people), whereas adversaries are enemies of a particular person or group. Typically, adversaries will actively be trying to undermine you, while hostiles may simply be intolerant of you instead of actively antagonistic. Hostiles are often people who are unaware of you, unaware of your location, unable to attack you, or uninterested in fighting you; adversaries, on the other hand, will tend to want and try to weaken you in general to reduce the threat you pose to them, rather than just opposing you reactionarily when whenever you step on their (perceived) turf.

Sonata_Ideoma

11 set 2021

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@JetBlack Thank you for the explanation! Although, I’m not sure if “hostiles” is not an actual word, because I’ve heard phrases like “Hostiles incoming” (meaning “The enemies are drawing near/getting closer”) and “Hostile down” (meaning “The enemy soldier/terrorist was shot down”) countless times in FPS games like CoD, Battlefield and others. Possibly, it’s that it’s an AmE expression and not a BrE one.

Sonata_Ideoma

11 set 2021

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@Bearsca Thank you for the explanation!

JetBlack

11 set 2021

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@Bearsca sorry, but ‘hostiles’ is not an English word. Hostile is only an adjective, not a noun. We would need to say hostile people for people who are generally hostile to everyone.

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JetBlack

11 set 2021

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@Sonata_Ideoma maybe. But if that’s true, then I think it must be a war/military or war games word and actually an abbreviation.

I don’t play CoD or similar games and I’m not in the military. It’s definitely not in general English usage.

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Bearsca

11 set 2021

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@JetBlack Seems like you need a better dictionary. And I've definitely heard natives use it multiple times, so it's pretty clear to me it's a thing. You find it in fields such as history, in the army -- or at least describing matters military -- and it's used by gamers a lot.

JetBlack

11 set 2021

Inglês (RU)

Yes. As I said, military, war and war games. It is not used in regular daily speech. And fkk off with your patronising ‘need a better dictionary’ crap.

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JetBlack

11 set 2021

Inglês (RU)

Adjective. No mention of noun.

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Louis_UK

12 set 2021

Inglês (RU)

@Sonata_Ideoma - it depends which dictionary you are using in relation to 'hostile'.

If you are using UK dictionaries, and you are English in nationality, we don't use the word 'hostile' as a noun, unless as you say, we are involved in war, gaming etc. In addition, the main UK dictionaries at present, don't list 'hostile' as a noun and @JetBlack is quite right.

However, @Bearsca is also right, as other world wide dictionaries do list 'hostile' as a noun. As to whether 'hostile' is a noun from an English person's perspective, we can submit any word to the Oxford Dictionary team - and if they feel it is common usage (which 'hostile' is) and arises due to innovation etc (which 'hostile' did), then they will add it to the English Oxford dictionary in the next update after the team approve it.

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JetBlack

12 set 2021

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@Louis_UK thank you for a balanced non-judgemental, non-patronising response. And sure, agreed. I shall not be proposing it to the OED. 😂

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Bearsca

12 set 2021

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@JetBlack I did not intend to patronise, sorry. Merriam-Webster's online dictionary lists a noun form of "hostile". And it's not like it's uncommon for adjectives to get nouned like this, or for those nouns to get pluralised with -s.

JetBlack

12 set 2021

Inglês (RU)

Ok. But I am a British English native speaker. And this question is about UK English. Merriam Webster is an American dictionary. So, right now, ‘hostile’ is only an adjective according to the Oxford English Dictionary. It might change in the future, but it is not considered a noun at this time.

Also, as I said, it is still not part of regular day to day speech, only in war games or in the military.

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Qual é a diferença entre hostiles e adversaries ?

Qual é a diferença entre hostiles e adversaries ?Podes indicar apenas respostas exemplo.

@Bearsca sorry, but ‘hostiles’ is not an English word. Hostile is only an adjective, not a noun. We would need to say hostile people for people who are generally hostile to everyone.

@Sonata_Ideoma maybe. But if that’s true, then I think it must be a war/military or war games word and actually an abbreviation. I don’t play CoD or similar games and I’m not in the military. It’s definitely not in general English usage.

@JetBlack Seems like you need a better dictionary. And I've definitely heard natives use it multiple times, so it's pretty clear to me it's a thing. You find it in fields such as history, in the army -- or at least describing matters military -- and it's used by gamers a lot.

Yes. As I said, military, war and war games. It is not used in regular daily speech. And fkk off with your patronising ‘need a better dictionary’ crap.

Adjective. No mention of noun.

@Louis_UK thank you for a balanced non-judgemental, non-patronising response. And sure, agreed. I shall not be proposing it to the OED. 😂

@JetBlack I did not intend to patronise, sorry. Merriam-Webster's online dictionary lists a noun form of "hostile". And it's not like it's uncommon for adjectives to get nouned like this, or for those nouns to get pluralised with -s.

@Sonata_Ideoma maybe. But if that’s true, then I think it must be a war/military or war games word and actually an abbreviation.

I don’t play CoD or similar games and I’m not in the military. It’s definitely not in general English usage.