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Hello guys! I've a question for you: What do you know about Lebanon and what comes to your mind when you think about Lebanon? I accept positive and negative answers in a respectful way.
Hello guys! I've a question for you: What do you know about Lebanon and what comes to your mind when you think about Lebanon? I accept positive and negative answers in a respectful way.
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- País ou região ISRAEL
Hezbollah.
Terrorism.
AntiSemitism.
The explosion that happened to you (and I’m sorry it happened to you).
Sharia law.
War.
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- País ou região ISRAEL
A lot of Christians, Hezbollah holds the government and the people hostage, a country that has so much potential but is being held back by archaic conflicts and the consequences of colonialism. Other than that, not much at all...
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@English1999 @Osuwari
☆ It is true that Hozballa is terrorist and he's making lots of problems to Lebanon. And what is also true is that the explosion that happens in Beirut is made by Israel to punish Hozballa but the truth is that lots of innocent people have been killed!
☆ Till now we don't have any war in Lebanon and this is good. I know that Israel needs to make normalization with lots of Arabic countries because this will have benefits for each other but in Lebanon this can't happen nowadays, maybe in future. But till there, Israel is going to make lots of problems to Lebanon!
☆ What is about antisemitism is that not only Arabs hates Israel but also Israel hates Arabs. And something unknown is that Israel hates Christians also not only Muslims and my proof is the person that was working in USA for Israel as a spy. What I'm sure about is that Israel wanna be the strongest country in the world and you wanna make all people Jewishs and my proof is Jehovah's Witnesses.
☆ It is true that Hozballa is terrorist and he's making lots of problems to Lebanon. And what is also true is that the explosion that happens in Beirut is made by Israel to punish Hozballa but the truth is that lots of innocent people have been killed!
☆ Till now we don't have any war in Lebanon and this is good. I know that Israel needs to make normalization with lots of Arabic countries because this will have benefits for each other but in Lebanon this can't happen nowadays, maybe in future. But till there, Israel is going to make lots of problems to Lebanon!
☆ What is about antisemitism is that not only Arabs hates Israel but also Israel hates Arabs. And something unknown is that Israel hates Christians also not only Muslims and my proof is the person that was working in USA for Israel as a spy. What I'm sure about is that Israel wanna be the strongest country in the world and you wanna make all people Jewishs and my proof is Jehovah's Witnesses.
- País ou região ISRAEL
A few things:
1. Israel is not responsible for what happened in Beirut. There is no proof of that.
2. The people who died in Lebanon were all killed because of the explosion - again - it’s not Israel’s fault. (It’s so easy to blame Israel tho).
3. Israel has proven that it wants to make peace with Arab/Muslim people.
We made peace with Bahrain and the UAE. If Lebanon ever wants peace - it will have it.
4. Antisemitism is hatred against Jews - I wasn’t talking about Israel. I know that many Israelis hate Arabs and Muslims but the difference is that we don’t teach it in school or educate our children to stab Muslims.
5. There are hundreds or thousands of Christians in Israel. We don’t hate Christians at all. They serve in the Israeli army and live here with us.
6. Saying that Israel wants to be the strongest country in the world borders antisemitism because antisemites claim that the Jews want to take over the world. That’s literally an antisemitic trope.
7. We don’t want to make anyone Jewish.
Judaism, unlike Islam, doesn’t force anyone to convert. Conversion to Judaism is a tiring process that isn’t suitable for everyone.
8. Jehovah’s Witnesses is more Christian than Jewish.
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Jehovah’s witnesses have absolutely nothing to do with Jews and Judaism.
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@English1999 Also a few things :
1/2. Israel has proven a lot of times throughout history that it is capable of doing these kinds of things (in Lebanon, but also to its allies (see USS Liberty + the casus belli of the creation of Hezbollah)
3. They just have the same interests. The leaders of these countries have evil thoughts.
The question is not if Lebanon wants to make peace with Israel, but if Israel wants to make peace with Lebanon.
If it really wanted, they wouldn't have brought all problems to Lebanon, destroyed it, and made it go from 'The Switzerland of the Middle East', and its capital from 'The Paris of the Middle East, to one of the poorest country in the world. If they really wanted peace, they wouldn't have invaded the country twice, and violates its air and sea sovereignty almost every day until now.
They would also have resolved the Palestinian-Israeli conflict a long time ago. The PA is for a two-state solution, and Hamas is not internationally recognized as being the Palestinian government.
4. Lebanese people or Muslims don't teach that to their children, neither in school nor at home (I'm Lebanese btw). Lebanese people don't hate Jews and don't even hate Israelis, but just the far-right government.
5. There are thousands of Jews in Lebanon as well, they have a cemetery, synagogue, and many of them served in the Lebanese army during the Israeli invasion. Even Nasrallah has called to his supporters to make the difference between Jews and far-right Zionists Israelis (such as Netanyahu).
6. No because Israel is a state and Judaism is a religion. If I don't support the Saudi government or the Iranian regime and think that they want to have more influence in other countries doesn't make me Islamophobic.
7. You did a whole speech about anti-Semitism but you are literally being Islamophobic. 'Judaism, unlike Islam, doesn't force anyone to convert' is being Islamophobic because it is like saying that Muslims are like animals to kill people that don't want to convert. If you read the Quran, you'll see that a person to be Muslim has to believe in the scriptures and you can't force other people to convert (which wouldn't have any consequences, because a person to be Muslim, has to believe in the Quran and these kind of stuff, which the people that were forced to convert don't).
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@anolex90
1. Israel has proven that it’s capable of doing these things and yet you can’t prove that Israel destroyed Beirut.
Don’t blame Israel without backing it up. Otherwise I could blame your country for horrible things as well without having any evidence.
2. Israel compensated those who died on the ship (USS liberty) and apologised for the attack.
The relationship between Israel and US is much stronger now than ever.
3. Israel wants to make peace with everyone. We’re not interested in any war. We’ll have peace with Lebanon whenever their government wants to.
After the explosion in Beirut, Tel Aviv city hall was lit up with Lebanese flag. You know what Lebanon’s response was? “We’ll light up Tel Aviv with our rockets”.
4. I’m sure not all Lebanese people hate Israelis or Jews, I didn’t say that. But Kids in Gaza are taught to stab Jews and hold AntiSemitic views towards us. It’s part of their curriculum. (Also in Saudi Arabia btw).
5. Netanyahu is not far-right and neither is his government. He’s actually very moderate. I guess we can agree to disagree.
6. Criticism of Israel is acceptable, calling for the destruction of Israel isn’t. Many Palestinians in Gaza call for the destruction of Israel and commit terror attacks against Israelis.
7. Judaism is not just a religion, It’s an ethnicity as well. There are atheist Jews and there aren’t atheist Muslims. I didn’t say that Muslims are like animals and that wasn’t my intention. I compared Judaism to Islam. Islam thrives to convert people while Judaism isn’t for everyone. It’s a fact.
8. Palestinians in Lebanon are treated horribly. They are not entitled to gain proper education or be part of the health-care system. Use the same energy to attack Lebanon rather than attack Israel.
9. Syria murdered 4 thousand Palestinians, yet the world is quiet ... BUT when a Palestinian terrorist goes on a killing spree to stab Israelis and gets shot by a soldier the world goes crazy. The hypocrisy...
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- País ou região FRANÇA
@English1999
1. I can't prove that Israel did the explosion, but I can prove that it is capable of doing that, after everything it did to Lebanon. Israel was also quiet when they did these kinds of things in the past, but yet, it was proven that they did it, and sometimes it was even former generals of the IDF or the former leader of Mossad, who said 'Israel doesn't want peace'.
2. It doesn't mean that they compensate the victims that the family will forgive them. What Israel did is unacceptable and the US covered its attack because of their interests and/or because they were under pressure from Israel.
3. We're not interested in war either, but we can never forgive what your government has done to us, but of course, it has nothing to do with Israelis or their religion, just the government.
Moreover, it wasn't Lebanon's response. It was just a random person from Twitter and there are extremists everywhere. We can say the same thing about Feiglin, a former member of the Knesset who said that the explosion was a gift from God, but of course, as Lebanese people, we know that his opinion isn't shared by Israelis.
4/6. I understand that but the government of Gaza is held by radicals that even a big part of the Palestinians don't support.
Saying that Jews are bad, (which even a big part of the people of Gaza don't agree about it) is stupid because it has been proven by historians after decades of research that they are the direct descendants (for the majority of them (80-90%)) of Israel's children.
(After the Exodus, when the Jewish people were chased by the Romans, a part of them was forced to go to Roman provinces, and the rest of them were able to stay in Judea to provide Roma with cereals and other ingredients. The first president of Israel and the first prime minister knew this (they wrote it), but make archeological excavations stopped in the region of Judea to not let the world knows about it and to cover their actions. The majority of Israelis (95% approximately) as well are the descendants of people that converted to Judaism in history, mostly from the Khazar Empire.
That's why some people are calling for the destruction of Israel (even if it is most the dissolution of Israel that the majority of Arabs are calling to).
I am for a one-state solution where Israelis and Arabs, whatever their religion is, can live together (like Muslims and Jews used to live together for centuries), and not even in the name of 'Palestine', now that Israel exists, but with a new name and a new flag, where the people there can start from scratch and build a country together. But this can't be done without the dissolution of Hamas and Anti-Arabs groups.
5. Officially not, but he has far-rights convictions and it can be perceived as well in his words. He supports the expulsion of Palestinians, supports groups like Beitar Jerusalem which is full of Anti-Arabs and Anti-Muslims supporters (the club is now changing but the supporters are still the same).
7. I agree, Islam wants to bring people into the religion because Muslims believe that we have to be all on the path of God (same thing for Christians, that is why both religions send missionaries, while Judaism is more like a group reunited among its people).
8. They are put in camps because the Lebanese government is waiting to repatriate them to their land, which is impossible for now. Lebanese doesn't have much money, and Palestinians and Syrians represent a big part of the population, it is difficult for the government to privilege them over natives (which is the case for all countries in the world). If we were going to give them citizenship and integrate them into society, we would have another deadly civil war between Christians and Muslims.
9. Actually, no one is talking about that, neither on French TV or Lebanese one. I have learned thanks to pro-Palestinian pages on Instagram that in the last few weeks, a child was shot dead by the Israeli Army, and 2 men at a different time as well. The soldier that killed the girl child said that we would have killed her even if she was 4. I have been following these pages for plenty of years now and I count something like 50 of these stories over these years (whether shot dead or just wounded). They talked about Palestinians only when a few years ago, 50 Palestinians were killed in Gaza for protesting and there was big media coverage in France and Lebanon but that's it. There are currently airstrikes against Gaza hospitals but French Media don't even talk a few about it.
The Syrian regime is a terrorist one and no one supports it, even Syrians themselves and everybody is aware of Assad's human rights abuses, but Israel is normally a democratic country, that is why it is more questionable.
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@anolex90
1. As you said, if you can’t prove Israel did that please don’t pin it on Israel. It’s Hezbollah’s fault.
2. Regarding the former leader of Mossad or former generals of the IDF - I’d like to get a source please. I’ve never heard of it. As an Israeli citizen I’m telling you: We want peace. We’re so HAPPY that we can go no to the UAE and Morocco. We’re happy to make peace with Arab and Muslim countries.
3. You are going all way back to 1967 when Israel attacked an American ship. Israel paid 13M dollars and apologised. The American government accepted Israel’s apology.
4. On 9/11 Many Arab and Muslim citizens from Arab and Muslim countries were jumping on their tables and were so happy that the attack happened. 3 thousand Americans were brutally killed in the name of Islam. It’s a fact - not Islamophobia. I mentioned 9/11 (2001) because you went all the way back to USS liberty (1967) while Lebanese people were full of joy that thousands of Americans were killed.
5. I definitely don’t agree with Feiglin. The explosion saddened me. It’s awful.
6. You said that most people from Gaza don’t agree with the belief that “all Jews are bad” but according to statistics: 97% of all Palestinians living in Gaza hold AntiSemitic views towards JEWS. This is the vast majority!
7. I agree that some Palestinians are the descendants of the ancient Israelites. But only a small portion. Not all of them. There’s evidence that the Palestinians got arabised in the past. I agree. But most Palestinians came from Arab and Muslim countries.
8. Regarding the Khazar Kingdom: It’s a theory. there is no certifiable evidence. What you said is NOT TRUE. You said that 95% are the descendants of people that converted to Judaism in history. It’s simply not true. The estimation is about 20% top. Some did convert but the vast majority of Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the ancient Israelites and there’s lots of evidence such as DNA tests.
9. “I am for a one-state solution” - extremely problematic. Israel, in my opinion, needs to remain a Jewish and a democratic state. If there will be more Arabs than Jews it WILL definitely be a problem. And why? Because Jews who came from Arab and Muslim countries had already been kicked out before. Who can guarantee that the Palestinians will not kick us out from Israel? Mizrahi Jews were displaced from Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Morocco, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran etc.. everybody cares about the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 and 1967 but the world doesn’t care that Jews were displaced in the past.. Again, lots of hypocrisy when it comes to the Jewish people.
10. “Muslims and Jews used to live together for centuries” - Not true. There was lots of tension in the past between Muslims and Jews. Jews were massacred before 1948 (even before Israel was even created). Jews killed Arabs and Arabs killed Jews. Saying that they lived in peace is wrong.
11. I agree. We need to disarm Hamas and get rid of all Anti-Arab groups. And Bibi doesn’t support any sort of racism against Arabs or Muslims. He’s against the “Joint List Party” which supports communism and doesn’t condemn terror attacks against Jews. Beitar Jerusalem is awful as well. They are horrible people and I definitely don’t support them.
12. We would have another deadly civil war , so not giving them citizenships and putting them in camps is better? This is terrible. But I’m glad you acknowledge their pain.
13. “I have learned thanks to pro-Palestinian pages on Instagram”. Please make sure you hear both sides. Like I do. “The soldier that killed the girl child said that we would have killed her even if she was 4”. I would like to get a source. I didn’t hear about it.
14. “50 Palestinians were killed in Gaza for protesting”. They were not protesting. They were rioting. They are attacks disguised as protests. They throw rocks and try to take down the fence. Israel has every right to stop them attacking us. They also burned tires and attacked Israeli soldiers. There are 2 sides to every story.
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@English1999
1. There's no evidence as well that it's Hezbollah's fault. They don't have any reasons to do it
2. Of course, here you are :
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190622-isra...
https://justvision.org/glossary/1982-lebanon-wa....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
We also want peace but you get peace by force. All Arab countries did peace because of their own interests (either for lands like Egypt and Jordan, or for weapons and money like other Arab countries).
The overwhelming majority of Arabs of these countries are against normalization. The leaders are just dictators.
If you click on the Wikipedia link, you will see that Israel is responsible for the fact that Lebanon didn't make peace with Israel, while it was believed to be the first Arabic state to make peace with you.
How can Lebanese people support the normalization if Israel has attacked Lebanon twice, destroyed the country (it went from one of the richest countries in the world to the poorest), tried to divide it into 2 by creating a separatist state, allowed multiple massacres against Palestinian civilians and so on?
If someone comes into your home, kills a part of your family, expells the other part steals all your wealth and belongings (which I hope never happens to you), would you want to make peace with them ?
3. It doesn't mean that they apologized, that it can't be forgotten. A lot of soldiers and the families of the victims don't accept these apologies. The US just wanted to cover them, and were forced to.
4. It doesn't mean that a few criminals that have nothing to do with Islam did that or celebrate it that ALL Muslims are like that. Not even 0,01% of Muslims support terrorists.
And of course, you'll have "Muslim" people that will support them, but they are very few, like in the Second World War where there were Jewish people that supported Hitler. 9/11 is a horrible tragedy and nobody, even among Hamas or Hezbollah, supports the attack.
5. And we're very grateful that the overwhelming majority of Israelis don't support his statement.
6. This was a poll published by The Times of Israel, a far-right Zionist media, where what they say can be true, but they will not give all details. Some of them are forced to hold this point of view, and for the rest, they can't make the difference between Judaism and the Israeli government because they don't have access to any information, and they are forced to live in an open prison, know as the Gaza Strip.
7. There have been researches carried out by Israeli Historians, and they found that 70-90% of them are the descendants of Israelites, and Zionists that created the state perfectly knew that, as they wrote it themselves.
8. There were DNA tests and it has been proven that Ashkenazis have a lot of genes and characteristics similar to people that live in the actual region of where the Khazar Empire used to be. There were conversions but I don't think that much of them are descendants of the Israelites because Jews of the Roman exodus were moved to Roman provinces only.
Some studies say that all Ashkenazis (or the overwhelming majority) are converted and some not, so we can not be certain for now.
9. Even Netanyahu is for a one-state solution (under Israeli sovereignty, but still a one-state solution). Israel can't be a Jewish state if it doesn't apply the Torah, and can't be a Jewish State when the Torah forbad to Jews to have their own land, forbad them to rebel against other nations, and forbad the Jews to gather in the Holy Land.
It can't be democratic as well if Palestinians are treated as inferior people. All Israelis and Palestinians want peace, and there will be no displacement because radical parties on both sides will be forbidden.
The Palestinians who were displaced have been displaced recently and by a foreign 'democratic force', while the Jews have been displaced by the State they lived in, and the latter was a dictatorship.
10. Some tensions only, a few that can be counted on one's hand. Much less than today
11. He doesn't do anything to fight against Palestinian massacres. He's protecting settlers, even the ones that burnt a family alive, provide these people with water, electricity etc.. when they move to Palestinian lands to have be able to have Palestinians in their line of sight.
12. They are put in camps because they want to live together and are waiting for their right of return. Releasing them will create others Palestinian militias that will fire missiles to Israel from Lebanon, which will be a problem for Israel, but for Lebanon as well because we don't want to get involved in this.
13. I do that as well, and on Israeli pages you'll only find information to discredit Palestine (the state) and Palestinians, while on pro-Palestinian pages you'll only find posts that are denouncing Israeli (IDF) drives.
Here is the source for the Palestinian child : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman_Darweesh_A....
This is another story as well :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Muha...
14. They threw rocks because they are fed up with living in a 'big' prison where it is one of the most dangerous places on Earth, where they don't have access to anything and can't do anything there. In every country there are people burning tires for protesting, does it justify the killing? In France and in Lebanon it happened recently, but the army didn't start shooting them. It has also proven by human rights organizations that when there are Palestinian protests, the army will act severely, but when Israelis are also in these protests, the army will step away.
They can't attack soldiers with rocks and some balloons while the soldiers are on the other side of the fence, in fortresses or in towers
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@anolex90
1. I didn’t say that Hezbollah did that. I said it’s their fault because these terrorists planted the missiles in the ground. But what I’m asking you to do is just not to pin it on Israel since you’ve got no evidence.
2. This “Former Mossad Chief” has his own believes and he is entitled to say whatever he wants since he no longer represents the Mossad. I know for a fact that Israel tried SO many times to create a Palestinian State but the PLO rejected it over and over again.
3. “The overwhelming majority of Arabs of these countries are against normalization”. - That’s not true. I agree that there are many extremists on both sides .. But when my Jewish friends went to Dubai everybody was so nice. They waved Israeli flags 🇮🇱 and everybody took pictures with them. So please don’t speak on behalf of the “majority”.
4. “How can Lebanese people support the normalization if Israel has attacked Lebanon twice” - Have you ever actually wondered why Israel attacked Lebanon? Do you think Israel was just bored so it just fired rockets at Lebanon? The answer is NO. Lebanon was a threat to Israel’s existence and threatened to obliterate Israel. Again, there are 2 sides to every story.
5. “If someone comes into your home, kills a part of your family, expells the other part steals all your wealth and belongings. would you want to make peace with them?” - That’s exactly what happened to the Jews in Arab and Muslim countries and yet we’re trying to make peace with them again. Jews were displaced from Morocco and yet we’re in 2021 and we made peace. (All countries have their own internets. I agree. But we still made peace).
6. Again - you speak on America’s behalf. You don’t know why the Americans accepted Israel’s apology and compensations. It happened in 1967. It happened more than 50 years ago. America and Israel have a strong relationship today. Wars happened around the world between many countries. I believe in forgiveness.
7. “Not even 0,01% of Muslims support terrorists” - I don’t know if you lie or just ignores the facts. Please search on YouTube “Brigitte Gabriel on Muslims political correctness crap”. She’s a Christian Lebanese woman who supports Israel and has a lot to say about Lebanon. Please watch this video if you haven’t. More than 125 million Muslims support terrorism! (It’s 25% of all Muslims).
8. “there were Jewish people that supported Hitler” - Few Jews supported Hitler because the Nazis promised not to kill them. But the Nazis lied and all of these Jews were brutally killed. They were scared for their lives. And maybe there were some psychopaths who were mentally ill and supported Hitler without really understanding what his intentions were.
9. I agree that Gaza is in crisis but Hamas doesn’t care and the PLO doesn’t care about the Palestinians. Israel delivered so much money to Hamas - instead of building Gaza they built terror tunnels. Israel left Gaza completely in 2005 and yet we got thousands of rockets in return.
10. There is no proof or any evidence that between 70%-90% of Palestinians are the descendants of the Israelites. I agree that some are but your percentage is incorrect.
11. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the ancient Israelites and many Ashkenazi Jews took DNA tests and it showed that they are from the Levant. They are lighter than Mizrahi Jews because many Jewish women were raped by the Romans. But in Judaism the religion is determined by the mother, therefore, it doesn’t really matter. Some Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Khazar Empire but as you said, we cannot determine the exact amount. But it’s about 20% according to some Historians.
12. Actually Netanyahu is one of the only prime ministers who’s still pushing for the 2 state solution and gets attacked by right-wing media outlets and politicians.
13. Jewish State means a homeland for the Jewish people. That doesn’t mean a religious state like Iran where women are forced to wear a hijab. Jewish women literally wear mini skirts and bras in the streets. No one wants a religious State but a home for the Jewish people. Israel is both a Jewish State and a democratic State.
14. “can't be a Jewish State when the Torah forbad to Jews to have their own land”. Wow. So just because a few Jews decided to give their own interpretation to the Torah you really believe this is what OUR bible wants? Seriously? These Jews oppose Israel but we’re talking about some extremists that oppose Israel. That’s it. They don’t represent the majority. I can give you tons of examples of Imams who oppose having a Palestinian State. Do they represent the Quran?
15. “It can't be democratic as well if Palestinians are treated as inferior people”. There are 2 million Israeli Arabs who live wherever they want, work wherever they want and are able to VOTE. The Palestinians who live in the West Bank and in Gaza don’t have these rights because they are not citizens. They are under the Palestinian government.
16. Don’t forget the the UN split the land and the Arabs rejected it. So even though there are more tensions today than before- Arab anger will not determine if the Jews will have a State. They could have had their own State in 1948. They chose terrorism over neighboring.
17. “He's protecting settlers, even the ones that burnt a family alive” - No he didn’t. These vile Jews who did it in Jail and will rot in jail. Do you know what “pay for slay” is? The more Jews you kill the more money you get from the Palestinian Authority?? Keep the same energy to attack the PLO for supporting terrorism and the killing of innocent Jewish Israelis.
18. “Releasing them will create others Palestinian militias that will fire missiles to Israel from Lebanon” - So you don’t give them basic rights cause you care so much about Israel? Lol. You don’t give them basic rights because there might be tensions between Muslims and Christians.
19. Gaza is one of the most dangerous places on earth because of Hamas and other terrorist groups which used kids as human shields. Gaza is not safe because the Arab world is fed up helping them since their own government doesn’t care about them. They urge Palestinians to riot and stab Israelis. No one cares about the Palestinians more than Israel. Israel could treat the Palestinians so much worse and bomb Gaza every single day and we both know Trump wouldn’t even care.
But instead Israel doesn’t legislate death penalty, lets Palestinian families visit their relatives whom are in prison and gives so much money to the PLO to build Gaza.
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@English1999
1. Without Hezbollah Lebanon would just look like Palestine or Syria and Iraq. Of course, they have too much power and that's why we want their dissolution and they use Lebanon as a shield but other people knew about it as well and have probably triggered it to put it on Hezbollah's back. Lebanon has enemies, Israel is the first, and cameras showed a mystery man leaving the warehouse before the explosion and we still don't know who he was.
I have no evidence that Israel did this and you don't have any evidence that it is Hezbollah's fault.
2. 'They tried'. That's not true. If they tried, Israel wouldn't be annexing Palestinian lands and continue it until now. After the partition, Palestine passed from 100% of possession of the land to only 48%. It's completely normal to reject it. If someone came into your home and expells you, and then the police decided to give half of your home to the criminal, would you accept that? The PA has agreed to the Oslo Agreement but Israel continues to annex Palestinian and neighboring countries' lands.
Being a Mossad Chief is an important role and even if he's not the chief anymore, it doesn't mean that he wouldn't be loyal to his country anymore.
3. In the attachment you'll see an opinion poll realized by The Arabic Center of Doha. You'll see that almost everybody is against normalization with Israel, because of these reasons :
http://arabcenterdc.org/survey/the-2019-2020-ar... (bottom of the page)
In Dubai, 85% of the population are expatriates and therefore either don't care about the relations with Israel, or are afraid of being deported or arrested for opposing the government.
The Emiratis that live in Dubai don't want to get into politics or are close to the government. An application has been set up by the Emirati government as well to allow people to denounce locals/residents that are criticizing the normalization deal, and the people can be either fined or get to jail and be tortured.
Again, Arabs don't have problems with Jews and Israelis, only with their government and the fact that many Israelis support what the Palestinians are going through and still vote for Netanyahu.
https://youtu.be/1XIvDu6GZl8 Even after watching this video, I don't feel anything against Israelis and Jewish people because I know that all people don't think like them.
4. In 1948, the Israeli government deported 700,000 Palestinians to neighboring countries (which is known as the Nakba), and Lebanon was one of them. The country was even believed to be the first Arabic country to make peace with Israel but because Israel has sent 100,000 Palestinians to Lebanon (they are now 500,000), and some of them formed a resistance against Israel. The latter pushed the PLO to terrorism so Tsahal will be able to have a reason to invade Lebanon (this has been justified by former Israeli generals and Israeli historians and geopoliticians). After the invasion, they destroyed the whole country, created a civil war that led us from being one of the most advanced countries in the world (even ahead of the UAE and all Gulf countries) to one of the worst in the world, and we are still suffering from it today. Hezbollah was created as well to struggle against the Israeli invasion and prevent the division of Lebanon in 2, and it is because of the Israeli government that Hezbollah is still here and isn't ready to leave.
So Israel and Lebanon could have become allies, but Israel ruined everything and even created indirectly Hezbollah, that is preventing any possible peace with you.
They (Israel) did that only to gain territories and influence, like they took Egypt and Jordan territories and forced them to sign a peace treaty in exchange of giving their territories back.
5. Jews from the other countries have been killed by terrorists (and have nothing to do with Muslims). The leaders of these countries are even killing their own population, like Al Assad who is even killing Palestinians.
In Morocco they have always be accepted and were able to live in peace. They emigrated to Israel because they wanted to do, not because they were forced.
6. They have because of their own interests, which is pretty logical. Nothing justifies the bombing of your (Israel's) own allies, that without them your state will not be here today, just that you can get the US with you during the 1967 war to act like Egypt tried to attack the United States.
7. She is an anti-Islam activist that is calling for the division of Muslims and Christians and is considered as a joke in Lebanese politics, like Feiglin is in Israeli politics. She is only saying bullshit and nobody believes in her.
There are 'Muslims' that will call to the destruction of Jews, like 'Jews' who will call for the destruction of Muslims, but no real person will listen to what they say.
8. During Nazi Germany period, there has been the Haavara Agreement, which allowed Jewish Germans to leave Germany to move to Palestine. It showed that Zionists, even if they don't say it publicly, supported and still support Hitler a minimum because it is thanks to them that a 'Jewish' State has been to be created. After the WWII, Jews around the world felt the need of a state to fleed persecution, which wasn't the case before Hitler's arrival in power.
9. As you might guess, nobody is going to give money to its enemies.
Israel never gave money to Hamas. They allowed the transfer of Qatari funds to them only to get PLO and Hamas divided, so a Palestinian state will more difficult to accomplish.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/arab-i...
Moreover, the only amount of money that Hamas is receiving is from Iran and it is only military aid. And why paying for hospitals and other kinds of things if Israel will destroy them later on (like they are doing currently with their air strikes)? Israel has the Iron Dome system, they don't risk much from Hamas' rockets.
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10. Here are the sources :
http://the-engagement.org/?page_id=16
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai
Even Ben Gurion has admitted that Palestinians are the descendants of Israel's children.
I don't see how Ashkenazis can be the descendants of the Roman exodus because they are from Eastern and Central Europe, which never was under Roman control but under Khazar Empire. It has been proven as well that the Jews that were deported to Roman provinced converted mainly to Christianity and are mainly located in the south of Italy, Greece and southern Europe.
12/15 : A solution where Palestinians would have a few square kilometers of land without being a sovereign nation and would have control of nothing? And how come in Israeli maps, the WestBank and Gaza are included in Israel? If that's the case, just give them the citizenship, stop considering them as inferior people by forbidding them to go to territories under Israeli control, give them full rights, walk in the same sidewalks and take the same highways?
13/14 : Did you know that in the beginning, the Zionists didn't plan on having a state in Palestine, not even Herzl? Do you know that there had been plans to create a state in multiple countries in the world, where in Argentina and Uganda it was going to happen (Zionists bought lands and started to transfer people there ?). Do you know as well that Theodor wrote in his memoire that 'All Anti-semitic states are their allies' because they allowed the creation of Israel, so saying that 'Jews are coming to their land' is a completely false idea but they haven't planned in the beginning on going to Eretz Israel before the Skyques Picot agreements
If it was a democratic state, people would not be arrested and tortured for opposing the Israeli State.
In the Quran it doesn't say anything about Palestinians right to have a land, while in Torah it is written. They are not 'interpretations' because the verses are clear (you can just read them) : https://www.truetorahjews.org/qanda/source1
16. They chose rebellion over being stolen. They had 100% of the land, and they finished by having 48% of the land, while Zionists passed from 0% of possession to 52%. It's normal them to accept. Arabs as well decided to attack Israel to protect their interests, not Palestinians. 'Arabs' is a cultural denial.
17. Unfortunately, Hamas and Fatah and are radical groups and don't represent Palestinians people on all points. How do you explain as well that in Israeli schools, they are taught from a young age to glorify the IDF, build tanks made of construction materials, and in some kibbutz, to hate Arabs and Muslims ? (Stories told by Israeli families that left their country to live abroad).
18. I care about peace and we give them enough rights, but as a French citizen, if I go to Russia and get hurt, I'll not be able to be treated for free or for as much that a Russian citizen, which is the case for Palestinians, that are just waiting for their right of return. For Palestinians under Israeli sovereignty, it is much worse because first, it was their land, but they are not even treated like human beings.
19. (The beginning has been answered in the previous questions)
Israel doesn't let Palestinians visit their relative, unless they are under international pressure, like for the man who was under administrative detention (detention that is used by Israel to detain Palestinians without any trial) and was on hunger strike for months, and his family and girl of a few years were crying to be able to see him but Israelis refused, until international pressure came.
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@English1999 I'm a Muslim and I tell you Islam doesn't force anyone to convert too! (my Islam, there are many interpretations of islam)
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@david1560 I agree. There are definitely many interpretations of Islam, and many sects as well (Shia / Sunni .. etc). I said that the main difference is that Judaism is an ethno-religion and Islam is just a religion and that there are atheist Jews.
The purpose of all religions is to spread among people, when it comes to Judaism, is more of a closed religion and takes time to convert since you embrace an entire identity in order to become Jewish. Hope it’s clearer.
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