"The concert was planned out for next Saturday."

①Is this sentence correct?
②Do you think next Saturday is a past event or can't decide on this context?

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greek26

11 set 2020

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Inglês (EUA)
Filipino

@afiri107mk sorry for the late reply. I haven't checked HiNative for a while.

The three directors HELD a meeting last year to draft the big EVENT. After the discussion, they finally agreed to hold the concert the next Saturday following/after their meeting.

"next Saturday" is still a future event from the perspective of the directors. It's past event for the speaker, so the speaker needs to use HELD, AGREED, and make it clear which Saturday.

I used "the next Saturday following/after their meeting" so it's clear it's next Saturday from the perspective of the directors and not the speaker.

"The directors planned the concert for next Saturday" can sound like it's this coming Saturday (speaker's point of view).

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If you really want to use "plan", then

After the discussion, they finally PLANNED the concert for the next Saturday following/after their meeting.*

*I feel like "plan" isn't the best word to use if it's already decided and a sure thing. See how this one sounds like: They planned to travel this year but the pandemic happened.

Or this one:
Question: When's the concert gonna be?
Answer: They plan to hold it next Saturday. (It's the PLAN. Is it the final decision? We don't know. Something can still happen that might change things.)

vs

Answer: Next Saturday. or It's going to be/It's next Saturday. (There's a certainty to the statement.)

Hope this helps :)

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greek26

28 ago 2020

Inglês (EUA)
Filipino

1. Do you mean: The concert was planned for next Saturday. (They planned to hold the concert next Sat.)
"plan out" is used like this "Let's meet today to plan out the concert." = to plan the concert in detail
"I have planned out my day. First, I will do this. And then this. And that."

2. "next Saturday" is a future event. It can show some uncertainty if the sentence were, "The concert was planned for Saturday" depending on the context. Like maybe there's a chance it'll be cancelled. If it's a sure thing, we could have said, "The concert is on Saturday."

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afiri107mk

28 ago 2020

Japonês

Thank you very much.
1. I see. And that's what I meant to be. So "plan out" might not be in harmony with my intention.

2. I see. And I have to say, my point of view is a quite warped.. Because I assumed that "Next Saturday" could be a past event if the concert was already done when I tell this line.

Maybe It's like this;
"The three directors hold the meeting last year to draft the big events. After the discussion, they finally agreed that the concert was planned for next Saturday.(from the time they get together.)

So that's why I thought it was a past event...But is it not common recognition? Does this cause any trouble?

greek26

11 set 2020

Inglês (EUA)
Filipino

@afiri107mk sorry for the late reply. I haven't checked HiNative for a while.

The three directors HELD a meeting last year to draft the big EVENT. After the discussion, they finally agreed to hold the concert the next Saturday following/after their meeting.

"next Saturday" is still a future event from the perspective of the directors. It's past event for the speaker, so the speaker needs to use HELD, AGREED, and make it clear which Saturday.

I used "the next Saturday following/after their meeting" so it's clear it's next Saturday from the perspective of the directors and not the speaker.

"The directors planned the concert for next Saturday" can sound like it's this coming Saturday (speaker's point of view).

****

If you really want to use "plan", then

After the discussion, they finally PLANNED the concert for the next Saturday following/after their meeting.*

*I feel like "plan" isn't the best word to use if it's already decided and a sure thing. See how this one sounds like: They planned to travel this year but the pandemic happened.

Or this one:
Question: When's the concert gonna be?
Answer: They plan to hold it next Saturday. (It's the PLAN. Is it the final decision? We don't know. Something can still happen that might change things.)

vs

Answer: Next Saturday. or It's going to be/It's next Saturday. (There's a certainty to the statement.)

Hope this helps :)

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greek26

11 set 2020

Inglês (EUA)
Filipino

Instead of plan, you can use schedule.

They finally scheduled the concert for the next Saturday after their meeting.

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afiri107mk

11 set 2020

Japonês

Great advice! So it's the matter of subject to decide which tense should cover this case. that makes a lot of sense.

>>"The directors planned the concert for next Saturday" can sound like it's this coming Saturday (speaker's point of view).

Yes, this is all about what I've wanted to know. Thank you very much. This is really helpful.

>>I used "the next Saturday following/after their meeting"

I'll go for this from now on.
I really appreciate your help!