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Qual é a diferença entre Stadt e Dorf, Ortschaft ?Podes indicar apenas respostas exemplo.
Qual é a diferença entre Stadt e Dorf, Ortschaft ?Podes indicar apenas respostas exemplo.
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- Alemão
Stadt = city
Dorf = small village
Ortschaft = village, normalky bigger as a Dorf
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- Alemão
Ortschaft is sometimes a group /consolidation of a few villages (Dörfer).
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- Inglês (EUA)
i.e Rotenturm, Austria would be a Dorf, and the Oberwart area of which Rotenturm is in is a Dörfer?
- Inglês (EUA)
...and Oberwart itself could be called a Ortschaft?
- Alemão
Stadt = Frankfurt, Berlin, ... = City, usually better infrastructure (buses, underground, trains, tramways,...), bigger buildings with many families, sometimes even skyscrapers, ...
Dorf = little, usually one (or even none) supermarket, often connected to agriculture, usually single houses, more quiet
Ortschaft is more formal and means a place where people live and which is accepted by the law to be a Ortschaft. In Germany, everytime you enter a Dorf or a Stadt, there is a yellow plate which marks the line. From there one you are only to allowed to go 50km/h there. This plate is called "Ortschaftsschild".
You'll often here the term Ortschaft in driving school, but in daily German, we just say Stadt, Dorf or even Kaff (colloquial or even dialect for a really little town somewhere in the nowhere)
"Außerhalb von Ortschaften fährt man maximal 100km/h, innerhalb von Ortschaften maximal 50km/h"
"Wir fahren noch bis zur nächsten Ortschaft und machen dann Pause"
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- Alemão
Have to correct myself, the plate is called Ortstafel not Ortschaftsschild, but it marks the Ortschaft
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- Inglês (EUA)
@nebunebu Thanks, I'm from rural Saskatchewan and just cause our places are smaller we tend to call a city alot smaller than other people would. i.e. The City of Melfort has a population of 5,992.
- Alemão
@KeatonAGLair
Yes, it's often a discussion which cities are already villages or not. ;)
There exist also the adjective "dörflich" and I live in a part of a city which has a village-like character because it's quiet and rural.
"Ich lebe in einem dörflichen Teil der Stadt."
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- Alemão
Focussing the other way round. You are never wrong with using the word Ortschaft instead of Dorf.
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- Alemão
Well, to be totally clear here, Dorf / Ortschaft (Ort) / Gemeinde & Siedlung are the same and interchangable and the one you use depends of wich part of germany austria or swizerland you come from.
We in Baden Württemberg for example learned even in driving school it is called Ortsschild (Sign of the "Ort").
The only real differences in naming locations differently depends on the inhabitants:
Dorf / Ortschaft (Ort) / Gemeinde & Siedlung below 5.000
Kleinstadt between 5.000 and 10.000 or:
-Kleinstadt (Small city) above 5.000
-Große Kleinstadt above 10.000
Mittelstadt between 20.000 and 50.000
-Kleine Mittelstadt 20.000
-Große Mittelsadt 50.000
Großstadt between 100.000 and 500.000
-Kleine Großstadt 100.000
-Große Großstadt 500.000
Metropole above 1.000.000
You and most germans are using these in general:
-Dorf / Siedlung
-Stadt
-Großstadt
Like I said it may vary in different parts of the country but that's basically the foundation of all
PS.: with this information you may have noticed Frankfurt is not a "Stadt" but a "Großstadt" and Berlin is mostly called "Großstadt" but is really a "Metropole" (the only one in Germany)
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